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> reporter: as the deadline to reach a deal to avert the fiscal cliff draws ever closer, republicans say the real issue is spending cuts. >> listen, republicans want to solve this problem by getting the spending line down. the president wants to pretend that spending isn't the problem. that's why we don't have an agreement. >> reporter: a claim the white house denies, spokesman jay carney. >> let's just be clear. there is one party to these negotiations who has put forward a specific proposal for revenue and a specific proposal for spending cuts. even when the republicans-- and i saw speaker boehner do this earlier today-- insist that the president hasn't put forward spending cuts, one, it begs the question, what spending cuts have the republicans put forward? >> reporter: the president was asked if he was optimistic about reaching a deal. >> still a work in progress. >> reporter: but senate majority leader harry reid said republicans in congress should yield to public opinion about tax increases. >> speaker boehner knows or should know that the middle- class tax help that we have to
> reporter: as the deadline to reach a deal to avert the fiscal cliff draws ever closer, republicans say the real issue is spending cuts. >> listen, republicans want to solve this problem by getting the spending line down. the president wants to pretend that spending isn't the problem. that's why we don't have an agreement. >> reporter: a claim the white house denies, spokesman jay carney. >> let's just be clear. there is one party to these negotiations who has put forward...
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cliff negotiations. again, once again, they're going to hold the process that the american people did not much enjoy. and they're going to do that to try to get something very unpopular, which is taking away a lot of people's medicare benefits. ak they're only going to see more intransigent work stream. more out of touch of where the american people are. governor, carl rove was with bill o'riley. watch this. >> i think what the speaker is trying to get across is at this point, the republicans are pretty much in disarray. they can't compete with the organized democratic machine. that's why romney lost. >> they are in disarray. they doept have a clue of what to do. they're not in any way consistent with what they want. they want taxes raised on the rich. it spurred 23.5 million new jobs in six years. americans get that stuff. they've got to be voiced and sustained. by the way, all of this is political calculation. crystal is right. they're worried about the primary. good lord, have some guts and do what's
cliff negotiations. again, once again, they're going to hold the process that the american people did not much enjoy. and they're going to do that to try to get something very unpopular, which is taking away a lot of people's medicare benefits. ak they're only going to see more intransigent work stream. more out of touch of where the american people are. governor, carl rove was with bill o'riley. watch this. >> i think what the speaker is trying to get across is at this point, the...
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they will continue their discussions on the fiscal cliff. and it's look likely we could have some news later this hour, perhaps later in the evening. we're not sure how long the discussion will go. rich, thank you so much for joining us on this. you will be standing by for us this whole hour at the white house who. we'll be getting back to you with any breaking news we have from this meeting. the markets some say are being held hostage by these negotiations. i just counted. 18 days left in this year for these negotiations to come to a conclusion. we shall see. more news on this breaking news let's go to didn'tcratic congressman kurt schrader. thanks for joining us very timely. what do you think as we see speaker boehner coming to the white house to speak with president obama. what do you think will come out of this meeting? >> i hope some progress. as you indicated there has been precious little so far. they want to get the country back on a secure footing and get jobs growing in the country. hopefully they will be able to put together. sand
they will continue their discussions on the fiscal cliff. and it's look likely we could have some news later this hour, perhaps later in the evening. we're not sure how long the discussion will go. rich, thank you so much for joining us on this. you will be standing by for us this whole hour at the white house who. we'll be getting back to you with any breaking news we have from this meeting. the markets some say are being held hostage by these negotiations. i just counted. 18 days left in this...
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did he want to have this protracted battle that would take attention away from the fiscal cliff debate, the economic debate where he's clobbering the republicans and put it in some other area where he's not necessarily as strong? now, in terms of the enemies, i think what it was is certainly you have people with the knifes out like john mccain and lindsey graham but just as tellingly, you didn't have a lot of democrats ready to go to the mattresses for her. so, yes, they could have gotten her through, but it's not a fight a lot of the democrats were relishing having. i think it had very little to do with benghazi and i think as joy pointed out, it had a lot to do with pique, and john mccain's pique at the way susan rice treated him during the 2008 campaign. >> dana, this critique of ambassador rice having sharp elbows, i have heard that, frankly, as a sexist slur by men very often who make that kind of critique because they don't like the fact that a woman has to work ten times as hard to get into a position of seniority. you know, so all this talk of her having sharp elbows, did she r
did he want to have this protracted battle that would take attention away from the fiscal cliff debate, the economic debate where he's clobbering the republicans and put it in some other area where he's not necessarily as strong? now, in terms of the enemies, i think what it was is certainly you have people with the knifes out like john mccain and lindsey graham but just as tellingly, you didn't have a lot of democrats ready to go to the mattresses for her. so, yes, they could have gotten her...
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is either man blinking in this fiscal cliff standoff? we now know the ambassador, susan rice won't be the next secretary of state. this hour, the big announcement and the new reaction. >>> and a high-tech printer could be deadly. we're going to tell you how it may be able to make guns with a push of a button. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." >>> there's a lot happening in the white house right now with huge implications for president obama's second term. the president is meeting with house speaker john boehner right now, a new bid to break their deadlock and avoid the so-called fiscal cliff. and they only have 19 days left. at the same time, the president's short list for secretary of state is even shorter right now, now that the ambassador susan rice has taken her name out of the running to replace hillary clinton. our chief white house correspondent jessica yellin and our senior congressional correspondent, dana bash, they are both standing by. jessica, first to you on the obama/b obama/boehner meeting that's going on
is either man blinking in this fiscal cliff standoff? we now know the ambassador, susan rice won't be the next secretary of state. this hour, the big announcement and the new reaction. >>> and a high-tech printer could be deadly. we're going to tell you how it may be able to make guns with a push of a button. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." >>> there's a lot happening in the white house right now with huge implications for president obama's second...
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. >>> our detail fiscal cliff update is next. >>> find out if the powers that be in washington, have they worked out a dealer? spoiler alert, they say they're not close. >> john mcafee left the united states to avoid taxes but now he's happy to be back in the gold ol' us of a. [ roasting firewood ] ♪ many hot dogs are within you. try pepto-bismol to-go, it's the power of pepto, but it fits in your pocket. now tell the world daniel... of pepto-bismol to-go. >>> guess what? breaking news. president obama and house speaker john boehner set to meet today to discuss the fiscal cliff as the two sides have been struggling, to say the least, to reach a deal. speaker boehner says president obama wants tax increases but is resistant to spending cuts. the president is optimistic about a deal but acknowledges it's a work in progress. in public opinion, a poll from the pew research center 55% say the president is making a serious effort to reach a agreement. 32% of republican leaders. mike, we're hearing frustration from republicans but the breaking news, 5:00 p.m. east coast time these two get
. >>> our detail fiscal cliff update is next. >>> find out if the powers that be in washington, have they worked out a dealer? spoiler alert, they say they're not close. >> john mcafee left the united states to avoid taxes but now he's happy to be back in the gold ol' us of a. [ roasting firewood ] ♪ many hot dogs are within you. try pepto-bismol to-go, it's the power of pepto, but it fits in your pocket. now tell the world daniel... of pepto-bismol to-go. >>>...
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if we reset it has to happen around the fiscal cliff first. there a lot of other issues out there that could be addressed if we can really create a new climate. whether we do in part depends on the success of this effort right now. >> brooke, you heard him mention the word climate. that is a major difference that they admitted exists in the atmosphere and even five or years ago. senator lott admitted if he were a leader he would be concerned about a challenge from the right that republicans didn't like too much. the same for democrats that. dynamic that blossomed and in a big way over the last few years. it is a big reason why both sides are having trouble coming up with a deal. >> that are is fascinating. they get the behind the scenes of the two men now that they are friendly and talking about it. what about secret conversations. where do they do that? at a golf course or hotel? >> these two had something interesting. they actually had a hotline. they had one phone line that went from senator to senator. the staff didn't know about it and th
if we reset it has to happen around the fiscal cliff first. there a lot of other issues out there that could be addressed if we can really create a new climate. whether we do in part depends on the success of this effort right now. >> brooke, you heard him mention the word climate. that is a major difference that they admitted exists in the atmosphere and even five or years ago. senator lott admitted if he were a leader he would be concerned about a challenge from the right that...
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much more on the fiscal cliff ahead. energy 21 chairman john shiller says the outcome will greatly impact his industry as you can imagine. he is our special guest coming up. tracy: congressman tom cole says even if the congress passes the president's tax cuts it will not solve the problem, spending. let's see how oil is trading. the dow fallen further down 84 points. oil trading $86.27 a barrel. about a rise of 50 cents. we'll be right back. [ male announcer ] this is the age of knowing what you're made of. why let erectile dysfunction get in your way? talk to your doctor about viagra. ask if your heart is healthy enough for sex. do not take viagra if you take nitrates for chest pain; it may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. side effects include headache, flushing, upset stomach, and abnormal vision. to avoid long-term injury, seek immediate medical help for an erection lasting more than four hours. stop taking viagra and call your doctor right away if you experience a sden decrease or loss in vision or hearing. th
much more on the fiscal cliff ahead. energy 21 chairman john shiller says the outcome will greatly impact his industry as you can imagine. he is our special guest coming up. tracy: congressman tom cole says even if the congress passes the president's tax cuts it will not solve the problem, spending. let's see how oil is trading. the dow fallen further down 84 points. oil trading $86.27 a barrel. about a rise of 50 cents. we'll be right back. [ male announcer ] this is the age of knowing what...
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it's an issue in this fiscal cliff fight. particularly if we go over the cliff and it turns into a pr battle. it's a problem longer-term, 2014, 2016. the party has to find a way to remake what people think of it and they're not there yet. >> and when you look, mark, at the optimism, pessimism, you find that people who are evenly divided, 48-48, as to whether there will be an agreement, they really want an agreement, though? >> this is a pessimistic are but a realistic public right now, and it's the public that watched what happened in 2011 during the debt ceiling standoff there. it was really interesting. we actually asked the question in december of 2008 after barack obama won his first presidential contest, and at that time 52% actually said we think the next congress is going to be an era of unity and willingness to compromise in congress. now when we ask that xwe, the newest poll, 69% actually are predicting disunity, division, and so this is a much more realistic public right now that is seeing everything that's going on
it's an issue in this fiscal cliff fight. particularly if we go over the cliff and it turns into a pr battle. it's a problem longer-term, 2014, 2016. the party has to find a way to remake what people think of it and they're not there yet. >> and when you look, mark, at the optimism, pessimism, you find that people who are evenly divided, 48-48, as to whether there will be an agreement, they really want an agreement, though? >> this is a pessimistic are but a realistic public right...
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i mean, look, this is the flipside of the fiscal cliff. the fiscal cliff is about the miasma of spending that we've had under barack obama, $6 billion added to the debt in one term. now we've got a regulatory cliff that is what we're doing with all that new spending which a highly intrusive government that wants to regulate every aspect of our lives. so we've got the epa that is doing this when it comes to water. when it comes to air, we've got the cleanest air in 30 yearsing according to the epa. they have got six new regulations in the coming year that are going to cost -- 1 38 billion in compliance costs to business, and billions more in higher energy bills. you've got the transportation department which is planning a whole host of new regulations that are going to raise the cost of cars and trucks. they want to force everybody to have a rear-facing camera inside their dashboard. so an american family that's struggling to make ends meet has to buy a rear-facing camera because the federal government says so. you've got all the regulation
i mean, look, this is the flipside of the fiscal cliff. the fiscal cliff is about the miasma of spending that we've had under barack obama, $6 billion added to the debt in one term. now we've got a regulatory cliff that is what we're doing with all that new spending which a highly intrusive government that wants to regulate every aspect of our lives. so we've got the epa that is doing this when it comes to water. when it comes to air, we've got the cleanest air in 30 yearsing according to the...
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is there any solution to not going over the fiscal cliff? >> reporter: we heard a lot of the same today from leaders in both parties. from the speaker coming out and saying the president's got to put more spending cuts on the table and from the democratic leaders say that the republicans just have to give on agreeing to raise tax rates for the wealthy. no. guess what? we heard from dthem that the house speaker is going home this weekend. he's not going to be here. they'll hopefully talk to the phone, but no face-to-face meetings. >> dana you talked to a couple of guys that spent careers in congress making deals, and they talk about you how they did it. tell us a little bit about that, the insights here. >> reporter: a really fascinating conversation with a former republican leader, senate let the record trent lott and the former democratic leader tom dashle on opposite sides of the table for almost ten years i covered them for a large part of that. i asked about, you know, kind of what was different back then versus now. specifically since t
is there any solution to not going over the fiscal cliff? >> reporter: we heard a lot of the same today from leaders in both parties. from the speaker coming out and saying the president's got to put more spending cuts on the table and from the democratic leaders say that the republicans just have to give on agreeing to raise tax rates for the wealthy. no. guess what? we heard from dthem that the house speaker is going home this weekend. he's not going to be here. they'll hopefully talk...
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people worried about the fiscal cliff. all that piles in. down 4%, loss for the quarter did narrow in the fourth quarter, and they have new contracts in home deliveries going well for them. i wanted to look at the broader market averages, and right now, the dow is down one quarter of 1%. both merck and boeing weighing on the dow jones industrials, each down more than 11%. -- 1%. on the topside, wal-mart, caterpillar, all winners. connell: news alert from california where blue shield wants to raise rates on individual policyholders from the "l.a. times" saying the health insurance company wants to raise rates by as much as 20% for some individuals out there with an average increase much 12% for 3,000 customers. the times talked with consumer advocates saying the non-profit should use some of its 3.9 # billion reserve to hold down those premiums, but higher rates out in california. the big story in tech land today, and this is making a lot of iphone users happy, i know. for months, there's been criticism over the mapping application on the new
people worried about the fiscal cliff. all that piles in. down 4%, loss for the quarter did narrow in the fourth quarter, and they have new contracts in home deliveries going well for them. i wanted to look at the broader market averages, and right now, the dow is down one quarter of 1%. both merck and boeing weighing on the dow jones industrials, each down more than 11%. -- 1%. on the topside, wal-mart, caterpillar, all winners. connell: news alert from california where blue shield wants to...
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how will the fiscal cliff hurt us. >> this is a big answer. i don't know your specific situation, but the bottom line is it will probably affect small businesses in a couple ways. first of all, they tend to deduct things and run their taxes many ways through their personal income. you may fall into the alternative minimum tax and the bad thing about that is that you can't deduct things. the department of revenue says we'll go from 4 million people who file under amt, that will explode. the other thing is there will be fewer deductions quite possibly. one of the advantages is you can deduct lots of things. many of those will change. you'll have to speak to your accountant about the specifics, but it will probably have an effect on you if you're a small business. if you're swlf employed, especially more things that will affect you because the things you pay like medicare iks payroll tax deduction, those will fall to you. make sure you get it right. if you're a major corporation, you have a team accountants figuring this out. >> i'm only going to
how will the fiscal cliff hurt us. >> this is a big answer. i don't know your specific situation, but the bottom line is it will probably affect small businesses in a couple ways. first of all, they tend to deduct things and run their taxes many ways through their personal income. you may fall into the alternative minimum tax and the bad thing about that is that you can't deduct things. the department of revenue says we'll go from 4 million people who file under amt, that will explode....
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jenna: a big topic inside this country is the fiscal cliff. we're minutes away from john boehner and his weekly press conference. the house speaker is expected to address the latest on negotiations in reaching any sort of a dealer who. we're less than three weeks to the january 1st deadline aft great deal of work needs to be done so the legislation can work through all the procedures in congress. mike emanuel is familiar with all that and joins us from capitol hill. any progress today? >> reporter: jenna we'll be waiting to listen to the carefully to the speaker's tone. obviously the key person in terms of negotiations on the republican side. at this point it feels like there is really a lack of trust on both sides. democrats are essentially saying if republicans came forward, gave us more tax revenue, we would have a deal very quickly. republicans act like it's charlie brown and the football essentially saying okay we come forward with the tax revenue and we ask you about spending cuts you are like lucy and you pull the football away and we f
jenna: a big topic inside this country is the fiscal cliff. we're minutes away from john boehner and his weekly press conference. the house speaker is expected to address the latest on negotiations in reaching any sort of a dealer who. we're less than three weeks to the january 1st deadline aft great deal of work needs to be done so the legislation can work through all the procedures in congress. mike emanuel is familiar with all that and joins us from capitol hill. any progress today? >>...
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nancy pelosi is talking to the media regarding the fiscal cliff. we will see if the democrats tone has changed when i see you next. live in washington. ktvu news channel 26789. >> the google chairman said he is proud of the company's tax structure despite criticism from european governments. he said they pay a lot of taxes. he added that taking steps that are legal to cut the amount paid is just good business. they paid two billion dollars in taxes worldwide last year. they shared some to a shell company in bermuda. >> we want to warn you about the graphic nature of this next story. a fort worth texas area man is jailed on half a million dollars bond suspected of carving a pent gram on his son's back. >> i put a pentagram on my son? >> on your son? >> yes. >> why? >> because it's a holy day. >> reporter: on 121212 yesterday investigators say the 39-year-old attacked his 6-year- old son with a box cutter. his wife then ran for help. the child spent the night in the hospital and is expected to recover at least physically, his wound was not deep enoug
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. >>> let's get the latest, now, on that fiscal cliff. just 19 days before everyone's taxes go up. every federal program is cut. and there's no signs of any progress from president obama and house speaker john boehner, which is raising the tension on capitol hill. abc's jonathan karl is there. and both sides are giving up hope of solving this by christmas. >> reporter: that's right. in fact, speaker boehner and republican leaders have warned rank and file republicans that they should be prepared to be here in washington, through christmas, and until the new year. the two sides don't even agree on what's holding everything up. the white house says that everything could be resolved quickly if republicans just agreed to raise tax rates on the wealthy. republicans say what's really the problem here is the white house won't get serious about spending cuts. >> everyone waiting on those two men. meanwhile, one of the side casualties may be that funding for the victims of hurricane sandy. >> reporter: that's right. i do not think that hurricane sandy funding, the $60 billion request from t
. >>> let's get the latest, now, on that fiscal cliff. just 19 days before everyone's taxes go up. every federal program is cut. and there's no signs of any progress from president obama and house speaker john boehner, which is raising the tension on capitol hill. abc's jonathan karl is there. and both sides are giving up hope of solving this by christmas. >> reporter: that's right. in fact, speaker boehner and republican leaders have warned rank and file republicans that they...
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interestingly folks that are paying more attention to the fiscal cliff story are more pessimistic. it's the folks paying less attention that are more optimistic. judging by what we're hearing from negotiators, the public clearly knows something is up in the bad way. >> i remain the most optimistic person in this town but we've got some serious differences. the longer the white house slow walks this discussion, the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff and the more person jobs are placed in jeopardy. >> the white house in turn insists its republicans are being inflexible. >> i don't believe that we've heard anything from the leadership that suggests they have moved off their position. they have refused to accept the fundamental fact that hiring -- the top 2% of earners in america are not going to have their tax cuts extended. >> the two sides have been swapping proposals this week but insiders say they didn't view the last white house plan as a serious counteroffer so they resent their original proposal to the president. the problem isn't just there's a big gulf between the tw
interestingly folks that are paying more attention to the fiscal cliff story are more pessimistic. it's the folks paying less attention that are more optimistic. judging by what we're hearing from negotiators, the public clearly knows something is up in the bad way. >> i remain the most optimistic person in this town but we've got some serious differences. the longer the white house slow walks this discussion, the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff and the more person jobs are...
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. >> the clock is ticking to reach a deal on the "fiscal cliff." >> i think it's going to be extremely difficult to get it done before christmas. >> the president and i have pretty frank conversations about just how far apart we are. >> i'm slowed down a little bit but i have to tell you a ran three miles in 29 minutes. >> governor brown reveals he is battling prostate cancer. >> how do you say, i love the yu ming school? [ non-english language ] >> from across the bay... to around the world... ♪ [ music ] >> ... the stories that matter on "eyewitness news this morning." ♪ [ music ] >> your realtime captioner: linda marie macdonald >>> good morning, everyone. it's thursday, december 13. i'm michelle griego. >> good morning. i'm frank mallicoat. it's 6:31. he bragged about his speedy trip through the broadway tunnels. strange story. >> but now a san francisco police sergeant is changing his story. elizabeth wenger has more on the investigation. >> reporter: good morning. the whole thing is just kind of crazy. so that video appears to show a san francisco cop just gunning it through
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but the big concern going forward is the fiscal cliff. walmart ceo said their shoppers are actually more and more aware of the cliff and some say it's going to effect their hole cida spending. if somebody on capitol hill would listen, wouldn't we all be sitting pretty. >> yes, we would. >>> drew brees, roger goodell, may be smiling here, but they're not happy with each other. brees wants an apology. goodell's not giving it. americans are always ready to work hard for a better future. since ameriprise financial was founded back in 1894, they've been committed to putting clients first. helping generations through tough times. good times. never taking a bailout. there when you need them. helping millions of americans over the centuries. the strength of a global financial leader. the heart of a one-to-one relationship. together for your future. ♪ together for your future. sfx: horn. ding. ding. how long have i had my car insurance? i don't know. eight, ten years. i couldn't tell ya' but things were a lot less expensive back then. if you're
but the big concern going forward is the fiscal cliff. walmart ceo said their shoppers are actually more and more aware of the cliff and some say it's going to effect their hole cida spending. if somebody on capitol hill would listen, wouldn't we all be sitting pretty. >> yes, we would. >>> drew brees, roger goodell, may be smiling here, but they're not happy with each other. brees wants an apology. goodell's not giving it. americans are always ready to work hard for a better...
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they seem less and less serious getting a plan that would avert the fiscal cliff. why i think you heard a number of them say publicly they're willing to go over the cliff to get higher taxes. but i think what is really interesting about your survey, bill, americans are pretty discerning. by a 53-36 margin they believe if the president gets higher taxes he will use it for more government spending, not to reduce the deficit. which is why a large majority i believe understand spending and spending cuts has it be part of the solution to this problem. bill: to your point, it showed a greater majority of people we polled said if you give washington more morn any they will spend it not pay down the deficit. getting back to what speaker boehner says, $1.4 trillion in revenue can't pass the house or senate right now. democrats control the senate. is that true? >> possible with a democratic majority in the senate they might get something like that through. there are a lot of democrats in the united states senate will have major heartburn over level of tax increases talking a
they seem less and less serious getting a plan that would avert the fiscal cliff. why i think you heard a number of them say publicly they're willing to go over the cliff to get higher taxes. but i think what is really interesting about your survey, bill, americans are pretty discerning. by a 53-36 margin they believe if the president gets higher taxes he will use it for more government spending, not to reduce the deficit. which is why a large majority i believe understand spending and spending...
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. >>> the "fiscal cliff" is fast approaching but the stalemate in washington continues. the white house is still demanding tax hikes on the top 2% but president obama did lower the amount from 1.6 to $1.4 trillion. republicans say that's not good enough. they are holding out for cuts to programs like social security. congressional leaders warn lawmakers not to make holiday travel plans. >> we are going to stay here right up until christmas eve throughout the time and period before the new year because we want to make sure that we resolve this in an acceptable way for the american people. >> meanwhile, fed chairman ben bernanke says the threat of the "fiscal cliff" is creating uncertainty in the economy. >> going home, guys. see you later. >> no comment from new jersey governor chris christie. but he did open up to barbara walters about his weight. he admitted that he is more than a little overweight but he says he has done thinks job well. christie says his size isn't something that would keep him from a run for the white house. it is rumored he is considering a presiden
. >>> the "fiscal cliff" is fast approaching but the stalemate in washington continues. the white house is still demanding tax hikes on the top 2% but president obama did lower the amount from 1.6 to $1.4 trillion. republicans say that's not good enough. they are holding out for cuts to programs like social security. congressional leaders warn lawmakers not to make holiday travel plans. >> we are going to stay here right up until christmas eve throughout the time and...
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the fiscal cliff. we want to talk to congressman james langford, a republican from the state of oklahoma. nice to have you with us, sir. we appreciate your time. >> thank you. >> you have in all seriousness been warned not to make plans for christmas. what do you think is the likelihood in fact that a deal would be done before christmas, number one? and what exactly are they telling you to do or not do? >> at this point we've been told by eric cantor and speaker boehner just to hold the schedule through the rest of the year. that's the same thing we heard right after the election. hang on to the calendar and we'll watch and see how this unfolds. obviously americans work through the holidays a lot and so as members of the house and senate, we'll continue to do that as well. >> how will it work low gistically. you're done today, right? the last working day, you're off tomorrow. do you go anyway and everybody is just on call meaning you'd be brought back to do some sort of a vote? >> americans loose track
the fiscal cliff. we want to talk to congressman james langford, a republican from the state of oklahoma. nice to have you with us, sir. we appreciate your time. >> thank you. >> you have in all seriousness been warned not to make plans for christmas. what do you think is the likelihood in fact that a deal would be done before christmas, number one? and what exactly are they telling you to do or not do? >> at this point we've been told by eric cantor and speaker boehner just...
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now back to the fiscal cliff for awhile. there was a voice spoken yesterday that you would think again, members of congress would listen to. ben bernanke, chairman of the fed saying hey guys, you got -- he's the one who came up with the term fiscal cliff. >> did he. >> bill: warning to members of congress. here he is yesterday. >> even though we've not yet even reached the point of the fiscal cliff potentially kicking in it is already affecting business investment and hiring decisions by creating uncertainty or creating pessimism. >> bill: front page of "the hill" today, cliff is already inflicting damage. it is because people don't know what the hell's going to happen. >> it will be interesting to see what ben bernanke says behind closed doors and the cursing he does at congress. he has to be rolling his eyes that we're at this point and at least publicly, we're nowhere. the clock is ticking and he was saying once again listen, don't minimize this. as president obama said, this is avoidable. they can do this. but if they do
now back to the fiscal cliff for awhile. there was a voice spoken yesterday that you would think again, members of congress would listen to. ben bernanke, chairman of the fed saying hey guys, you got -- he's the one who came up with the term fiscal cliff. >> did he. >> bill: warning to members of congress. here he is yesterday. >> even though we've not yet even reached the point of the fiscal cliff potentially kicking in it is already affecting business investment and hiring...
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no movement to report in the fiscal cliff. we can tell that you across the country mayors and governors are becoming increasingly concerned about the impact back home. there's growing angst on capitol hill over the fiscal cliff. >> figure it out. >> it's really time to get serious. >> reporter: mayors are getting nervous. >> congress needs to act immediately. >> reporter: and the public is worried. in our new nbc/"wall street journal" poll, 70% of democrats and 59% of republicans urge compromise. the country is evenly split over whether that will happen. republicans rejected president obama's latest plan to accept less tax revenue and sent the exact same offer back to the white house with no changes. >> i don't believe that we've heard anything from the leadership that suggests they have moved off their position. >> i remain the most optimistic person in this town. but we've got some serious differences. >> reporter: federal reserve chair ben bernanke warns gridlock is already affecting the economy. >> why is it that consumer
no movement to report in the fiscal cliff. we can tell that you across the country mayors and governors are becoming increasingly concerned about the impact back home. there's growing angst on capitol hill over the fiscal cliff. >> figure it out. >> it's really time to get serious. >> reporter: mayors are getting nervous. >> congress needs to act immediately. >> reporter: and the public is worried. in our new nbc/"wall street journal" poll, 70% of...
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be enough to undo the fiscal cliff. >> i hope it won't happen, if the fiscal cliff occurs, as i said many times, i don't think the federal reserve has the tools to offset that event. >> it was ben bernanke who first said fiscal cliff in a speech. another thing i want to bring to you, this report from mcafee warning about a potential widespread raid on your bank account by trojan malware in 2013. it's called projemalware target your bank account to siphon money out of bank accounts from 30 of the biggest banks, including these and fidelity, e-trade, charles schwabb, pay pal. this is a big problem. this is the second security firm that warned they found the fingerprints of this just lying on your hard drive waiting to come back to bite you. so as you can imagine, the banks, the security firms, everyone scrambling to figure out how they'll be able to undo it, if they can. a warning there about this. >> so even if we beat the apocalypse, the fiscal cliff, we're all still hosts. >> suspend your money now. just kidding. >> barbara walters called it the elephant in the room. chris christie
be enough to undo the fiscal cliff. >> i hope it won't happen, if the fiscal cliff occurs, as i said many times, i don't think the federal reserve has the tools to offset that event. >> it was ben bernanke who first said fiscal cliff in a speech. another thing i want to bring to you, this report from mcafee warning about a potential widespread raid on your bank account by trojan malware in 2013. it's called projemalware target your bank account to siphon money out of bank accounts...
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he told people that investors are nervous about the fiscal cliff. the fed predicts the unemployment rate will remain high next year, but interest rates will remain very low for the foreseeable future. >> bernanke says the best thing congress can do to solve this political stalemate very soon to avoid an economic downturn with just 19 days until the fiscal cliff, now both sides in this standoff seem no closer to a deal. the public rhetoric, though, is ramping up, while the private talks seem to be at a standstill over the same tax hangups. >> the president and i had a frank conversation about how far apart we are. >> he has made abundantly clear both in his policy presentations and in what he has said to you and to the american public that he is willing to make tough choices on the spending side. >>> the overseas markets though, don't seem to be too concerned about the lack of progress. stocks actually are mostly up, in fact. >> there's all kinds of polls out there. we have an abc news poll, fox news poll. i think overwhelmingly, the majority of amer
he told people that investors are nervous about the fiscal cliff. the fed predicts the unemployment rate will remain high next year, but interest rates will remain very low for the foreseeable future. >> bernanke says the best thing congress can do to solve this political stalemate very soon to avoid an economic downturn with just 19 days until the fiscal cliff, now both sides in this standoff seem no closer to a deal. the public rhetoric, though, is ramping up, while the private talks...
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cliff. the warning comes after president obama talked with boehner last night on the phone. sources say it was a tense conversation. experts warn of a new recession if a deal can't be reached in 20 days. >>> new jersey governor chris christie says it's ridiculous to say he couldn't be president because of his weight. he pushed back at his critics in an interview with abc's barbara walters. the republican governor is rumored to be considering a bid for the white house in 2016. >>> and, anderson, pope benedict xvi blessed his internet followers in his first tweet today. the pontiff has nearly 1 million followers on this english twitter page alone. and has many other accounts in several other languages. some say he is the coolest pope in history. >> isha, thanks very much. >>> a former u.s.afghanistan. now, his parents fear he may die in a mexican prison. they're pleading for his safe return after what began as a surfing trip, it's turned into a nightma nightmare. w? >>> a new twist in the biza
cliff. the warning comes after president obama talked with boehner last night on the phone. sources say it was a tense conversation. experts warn of a new recession if a deal can't be reached in 20 days. >>> new jersey governor chris christie says it's ridiculous to say he couldn't be president because of his weight. he pushed back at his critics in an interview with abc's barbara walters. the republican governor is rumored to be considering a bid for the white house in 2016....
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one of the examples, we can see here, "charlie cook has called the fiscal cliff negotiations a roller coaster ride." an inside to roller coasters everywhere. is he right, though? >> well, this whole fiscal cliff melodrama is a bit artificial because congress created this deadline for itself and doesn't seem able to fix. but these groups have a serious message and they're asking congress to something very difficult so using a alan simpson gangnam style video and tweeting certain groups, there was a treat about the impact the automatic tax hike would have on latino families, these are ways in which these groups are trying to hone their message so they can get people mobilized, put pressure on the white house or the congress or both to act here. >> and the campaign is called the millennial campaign. >> woodruff: so it's engaging people who wouldn't be part of these kinds of debates. very interesting. we had another big important user on twit they are week. someone already who already has 1.2 billion followers before he ever joined twitter and that's the pope who is out there. he sent his
one of the examples, we can see here, "charlie cook has called the fiscal cliff negotiations a roller coaster ride." an inside to roller coasters everywhere. is he right, though? >> well, this whole fiscal cliff melodrama is a bit artificial because congress created this deadline for itself and doesn't seem able to fix. but these groups have a serious message and they're asking congress to something very difficult so using a alan simpson gangnam style video and tweeting certain...
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it has everything to do about the fiscal cliff. and it's happening behind closed doors. and what is said in public does not seem to clear anything up. >> the longer the white house slow walks this discussion, the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff, and the more american jobs are placed in jeopardy. >> so what's really going on behind the scenes? earlier i spoke with republican senator jeff sessions, who's been asking the same question, and i asked him how much he, as the ranking member of the senate budget committee, actually knows about what's going on. >> very little. almost nothing, frankly. i mean, i learned from sources that the speaker was disappointed and things were not moving forward as well as he seemed to have indicated right there in those public remarks. but otherwise, really, we don't know. and the people that are losing in this process, this secret process, are the american people. they'll be the ones asked to pay more taxes. they may be the ones that are asked to tighten their belts. and they need to know what the choices are and what we're wrest
it has everything to do about the fiscal cliff. and it's happening behind closed doors. and what is said in public does not seem to clear anything up. >> the longer the white house slow walks this discussion, the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff, and the more american jobs are placed in jeopardy. >> so what's really going on behind the scenes? earlier i spoke with republican senator jeff sessions, who's been asking the same question, and i asked him how much he, as the...
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the president in his own words confirming that tax hike, coming irrespective of the fiscal cliff outcome. >> taxes are going to go up one way or the other, the key is to make taxes go up and high-end individuals, i am confident that republicans would not hold middle class taxes hostage to try to protect tax cuts for high income individuals. lou: obamacare, guarantees taxes are going up. 5 new obam obamacare-based taxeo kick in next year. a 3.8% surtax on unearned income, and call chains and dividend 18.8%, and a new tax on hospital care, and medical device manufacturersing' taxed 2.3% of the price of their products. americans get a tax deduction if their medical expenses exceed 7.5% of their total ince that number rising to 10% for everyone under the age of 65. and government, for first time ever sending a limit on tax free exible spending accounts, joint committee tax, estimates those 5 new provisions amount to $2 60 billion tax hike over next 7 years, president obama, avoid anything real negotiating on fiscal cliff issue, president doubles the amount of tax hikes he campaigned on when
the president in his own words confirming that tax hike, coming irrespective of the fiscal cliff outcome. >> taxes are going to go up one way or the other, the key is to make taxes go up and high-end individuals, i am confident that republicans would not hold middle class taxes hostage to try to protect tax cuts for high income individuals. lou: obamacare, guarantees taxes are going up. 5 new obam obamacare-based taxeo kick in next year. a 3.8% surtax on unearned income, and call chains...
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after the policy board meeting the fed chairman expressed strong concern about the fiscal cliff. he urged the obama administration and congress to resolve the problem as soon as possible. >> clearly this is a major risk factor and a major source of uncertainty about the economy going forward. we would try to do what we would. we would increase a bit but i want to be clear that we cannot offset the full impact of the fiscal cliff. it's too big given the tools we have available and the limitations on our policy tool kit at this point. >> let's get a check on the markets now. following the feds decision to take monetary easing steps, the dollar is higher against the yen. that is trading at 83.39 to 40. this is the highest level in eight months. participants are buying dollars due to receding worries after the fed's action. they are hoping the bank of japan will take action at its upcoming policy meeting next week. euro yen quoted at 108.22 to 99. japan's nikkei average went above 9700 at one point. a weaker yen and the u.s. fed's policy decision that's what's lifting a wide range of
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he's looking for public support in handling this "fiscal cliff." and he still knows how to rile the crowd in detroit. >> what we shouldn't be doing is trying to take away your rights to bargain for better wages and working conditions. [ applause and cheers ] >> campaigns never end. that's something that's been going on -- that's an innovation in the presidency in the last 30 years. it's the campaigning to govern thing. after the campaign is over you campaign on policy. >> reporter: so are these ads working? according to the latest poll out from abc news and the "washington post," not really. 49% of americans say they approve of how the president is handling the "fiscal cliff" crisis versus just 25% who approve of the republicans speaker of the house john boehner. >> thank you. >>> we have some breaking news now out of southern california. cal state fullerton is on lockdown. we have a live picture of the campus for you there. here's what's going on. police are searching for two armed men. now they believe it started when five suspects robbed a jewel
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we would increase a bit but i want to be clear that we cannot offset the full impact of the fiscal cliff. it's too big given the tools we have available and the limitations on our policy tool kit a this point. >> let's get a check on the markets now. following the feds decision to take monetary easing steps, the dollar is higher against the yen. that is trading at 83.39 to 40. this is the highest level in eight months. participants are buying dollars due to receding worries after the fed's action. they are hoping the bank of japan will take action at its upcoming policy meeting next week. euro yen quoted at 108.22 to 99. japan's nikkei average went above 9700 at one point. a weaker yen and the u.s. fed's policy decision that's what's lifting a wide range of issues here in tokyo. let's take a look at other asian markets open now. we are seeing seoul's kospi up and over in australia the benchmark is trading unchanged at 4,583. we'll see where trading takes us throughout the rest of the day. greece is buying back bonds. it exceeds the 30 billion euro target. greece had been seeking investor
we would increase a bit but i want to be clear that we cannot offset the full impact of the fiscal cliff. it's too big given the tools we have available and the limitations on our policy tool kit a this point. >> let's get a check on the markets now. following the feds decision to take monetary easing steps, the dollar is higher against the yen. that is trading at 83.39 to 40. this is the highest level in eight months. participants are buying dollars due to receding worries after the...
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cliff it does make you wonder how compulsion to worry about the nation's finances when they're worrying about raising money for the next election that it was just something to think about. now before we go it is that time of the year again where we start to say goodbye to two thousand and twelve now google is out with their two thousand and twelve year and report that looks at some of the big events across the world these year and reports flashback news stories that gained worldwide attention and if you noticed at one point our team got a shout out so we just wanted to thank you for that plug. and we are going to leave it off there but for more of the stories we covered you can always head on over to our you tube channel we post everything there in fall that is you tube dot com slash artsy america you know the check out our web site that's our dot com slash usa and you can also follow me on twitter at liz wahl for now have a great night.
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cliff. we'll show you what is driving the optimism. there is quite a bit of it. plus, possible break in case of the manhattan murder. days after somebody carried out apparent execution on the sidewalk. police found a very important clue miles from the scene. it could help them track down the killer. they need some help. so we'll show you with the help of journalists on fox news with this wednesday "fox report." our new maine stays! 15entrees under $15, seafood, chicken and more! oothe tilapiawith roastedegetab! i'm actually looking at the wo grilled chicken with portobello wine sauce. at pork chop was great! no more fast food friday's! we're going to go to red lobster. yep. [ male announcer ] come try our new menu and sea food differently and introducing 7 lunch choices for just $7.99. salad, sandwiches, and more. military families face, we understan at usaa, we know military life is different. we've been there. that's why every bit of financial advice we offer is geared specifically to curr
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the corporate taxes may be part of the fiscal cliff talks. here is dan mitchell, senior fellow at the cato institute. google stashed $10 million in bermuda, hp has almost all of its cash offshore and apple said to shareholders, two-thirds of its $121 billion of cash is held outside the united states. now why is that? is it just because they hate america? >> two things to understand. number one, everything they do is completely legal. it's foreign source income that is being taxed in the countries where it's being earned. but, number, two, the u.s. has the highest corporate tax rate in the developed world. these companies if they bring that money back to the united states will be double taxed on top of what they paid oversea, yes, with some credit so maybe it doesn't get too much above 35% but we are shooting ourselves in the foot with very bad corporate tax policy. >> will president obama clahang that with this talk of corporate tax reform? >> i don't want to burst your bubble. i'm not sure the administration is serious about this. we've seen
the corporate taxes may be part of the fiscal cliff talks. here is dan mitchell, senior fellow at the cato institute. google stashed $10 million in bermuda, hp has almost all of its cash offshore and apple said to shareholders, two-thirds of its $121 billion of cash is held outside the united states. now why is that? is it just because they hate america? >> two things to understand. number one, everything they do is completely legal. it's foreign source income that is being taxed in the...
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it is exempt from the sequester cut that are part of the fiscal cliff. tonight, correspondent shannon bream on the expensive history of a costly benefit. >> the the precursor to today's food stamp program, substantial nutrition assistance program or snap is rooted in the late 1930s and early '40s when the federal officials look to solve two problems at once to make sure urban families in need could attain the surplus that the rural farmers need to unload. it ended when the imbalance between the need and surplus was extinguished and restarted in the 1960s and existed in several versions since then. by 1970 there were 4.3 million recipients. fast forward to 2012 that number is up by 1,000% to 47.7 million. >> if a guarantee thing, entitlement program. that means if you meet the income qualifications the got must give you the money. whether the government has any money to give you or not. if they don't, they have to borrow it. >> that is right. spending on food stamps that hit $75 billion in fiscal year 2012012 is non-negotiable, exemt from the sequest trat
it is exempt from the sequester cut that are part of the fiscal cliff. tonight, correspondent shannon bream on the expensive history of a costly benefit. >> the the precursor to today's food stamp program, substantial nutrition assistance program or snap is rooted in the late 1930s and early '40s when the federal officials look to solve two problems at once to make sure urban families in need could attain the surplus that the rural farmers need to unload. it ended when the imbalance...
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we're one day closer to the dreaded fiscal cliff and washington is freezing over. >>> the fiscal cliff is coming to town. >> he says he's an optimist. >> i remain optimistic. >> i remain the most optimistic person in this town. >> but he doesn't sound optimistic. >> i'm pretty confident republicans would not hold middle class taxes hostage. >> we've got differences. >> taxes are going up one way or the other. >> the president and i had a deliberate talk. >> the key is to make sure the taxes go up on the high end individuals like you and me, barbara. we can afford it. >> they're going to have to cave in on this rate increase on the rich. >> we're going to stay here right up until christmas eve. >> the time is running short. >> merry cliffmas. ♪ >>> bundle up, everybody. because it is cold out there. and with just 12 days to hanging our stockings by the chimney and 20 days until the dreaded fiscal cliff, there's a distinct chill in the air. after the exchange of new offers, the president phones john boehner last night for one what aide described as a tense call. the speaker today, he h
we're one day closer to the dreaded fiscal cliff and washington is freezing over. >>> the fiscal cliff is coming to town. >> he says he's an optimist. >> i remain optimistic. >> i remain the most optimistic person in this town. >> but he doesn't sound optimistic. >> i'm pretty confident republicans would not hold middle class taxes hostage. >> we've got differences. >> taxes are going up one way or the other. >> the president and i had a...
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fiscal cliff? is it a slope, maybe? he said, no, it's a fiscal can cliff because the economy will hit a brick wall if there is not a deal in january. he says it is not hype. >> he's basically saying if we go over the fiscal cliff, if these lawmakers and white house doesn't make a deal, it could lead to a recession? >> that >> reporter: that's right. we could hit another recession if we go over the fiscal cliff. >>> shoppers that dive for cover as a gunman opens for cover in an oregon mall. we're going to give you the latest details, including the newly released identity of the man. >>> internet pioneer john mcafee is on his way back to the united states. kate bolduan is monitoring that story and others. >> guatemala officials escorted him to the airport and he boarded the plane to miami after a deportation order from guatemala. he is wanted for questioning in belize over the death of a neighbor. we've been following his story pretty closely. mcafee was held in guatemala for a week. he made his fortune from the anti-viru
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time for the daily fiscal cliff update as much as i am bored to tears with this story. bored. bored horrible. they will get something done. or they're not. tenth days from potential economic crisis leading republicans warn lawmakers no one is leaving washington, dc, for the holidays, until a deal is done. that would probably include wendell. who is the grinch? >>reporter: house majority cantor who is predicting lawmakers may stay until christmas and come back between christmas and new years. doesn't seem to have been much progress since the first post election face-to-face talks between the president and speaker boehner on sunday but aides say the president is eager for a compromise but at the same time they defended his public prediction that speaker boehner will give up trying to extend the public administration's upper income tax cuts. >> the president predicted the speaker boehner would not want to hold a position and that republicans in general would not want to maintain a position that would result in everyone's taxes going up because of their insistence that the wealthi
time for the daily fiscal cliff update as much as i am bored to tears with this story. bored. bored horrible. they will get something done. or they're not. tenth days from potential economic crisis leading republicans warn lawmakers no one is leaving washington, dc, for the holidays, until a deal is done. that would probably include wendell. who is the grinch? >>reporter: house majority cantor who is predicting lawmakers may stay until christmas and come back between christmas and new...
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back to the fiscal cliff. we're less than three weeks now from the 1-2 punch of tax increases and government spending cuts. president obama, house speaker john boehner held another phone call last night. here is speaker boehner on that. >> there were some offers that were exchanged back and forth yesterday. and the president and i had a pretty frank conversation about just how far apart we are. >> as we mentioned just last hour, take a look at the graph, these two sides have moved closer on taxes over the last couple of weeks. speaker boehner offered up $800 billion in new tax revenues after insisting on none. the president just this week, he's come down a little bit to $1.4 trillion but still no dice. no deal. cnn's sandra endo is standing by at reagan national airport, across the potomac from washington. so, sandra, if we hit this fiscal cliff, all the spending cuts kick in, what effect will that have on air travel? >> reporter: the big unknown is still how it will affect the everyday traveler. and that is c
back to the fiscal cliff. we're less than three weeks now from the 1-2 punch of tax increases and government spending cuts. president obama, house speaker john boehner held another phone call last night. here is speaker boehner on that. >> there were some offers that were exchanged back and forth yesterday. and the president and i had a pretty frank conversation about just how far apart we are. >> as we mentioned just last hour, take a look at the graph, these two sides have moved...
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and we are 20 days away from that so-called fiscal cliff. in our new nbc news/wall street journal poll just out for us today, most americans say they want compromise. joining me here for our daily fix, chris, msnbc contributor and managing editor of postpolitics.com. the fiscal cliff, the people that we polled, americans get it. they want, two-thirds of them, 65% say they want a deal to be done. they want compromises even if it means targeted entitlement cuts and tax increases. >> yeah, and i don't think we should be terribly surprised by that, andrea. the truth of the matter is over the last decade or so what we've seen is congress, really, because of redistricting and other things like that, members of congress don't tend to have to represent the middle of the country. they wind up representing their two-party bases, the people that deeply disagree. democratic base does not want entitlement cuts, republican base does not want to raise taxes. but people in general like the idea congress can get something done on something big. now, i would
and we are 20 days away from that so-called fiscal cliff. in our new nbc news/wall street journal poll just out for us today, most americans say they want compromise. joining me here for our daily fix, chris, msnbc contributor and managing editor of postpolitics.com. the fiscal cliff, the people that we polled, americans get it. they want, two-thirds of them, 65% say they want a deal to be done. they want compromises even if it means targeted entitlement cuts and tax increases. >> yeah,...
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so i think on the fiscal cliff it will get sorted. it would be nice if there could be a bit more decisive leadership. if you run a company, you don't have this -- this horrible problem where you can't make decisions. you can get on and say if i want to get into space, i'll go into space. let's get on and invest in it. if i want to go down to the bottom of the oceans, let's build a submarine that goes to the bottom of oceans. it's a lot easier than running a country. >> do you blame any particular side? is it all the same to you? >> look, i think i'm slightly biased one way more than the other, but i'm not going to push out 50% of the people watching your program right now. all right. i think that as far as things like climate change, which i happen to believe is an issue, and as far as social issues, which i feel passionately about, i do think that obama in his second term has a chance of really making a difference, and i'm sure some issues that the republicans have, these kinds of issues are not as high a priority for them as perhaps
so i think on the fiscal cliff it will get sorted. it would be nice if there could be a bit more decisive leadership. if you run a company, you don't have this -- this horrible problem where you can't make decisions. you can get on and say if i want to get into space, i'll go into space. let's get on and invest in it. if i want to go down to the bottom of the oceans, let's build a submarine that goes to the bottom of oceans. it's a lot easier than running a country. >> do you blame any...